Cheap NW fares to Europe from all over US

January 05th, 2009 | Category: xn--fiqs8stwme6s806a.com

I have been watching DFW-Europe fares over the last month on a daily basis. The best fares yet were posted today on www.nwa.com . I just booked DFW-MEM-AMS / CGN-AMS-MEM-DFW on NW for $329.94 RT including all taxes. Jan 13 dep and Jan 17 return. Around 10588 status miles.

A quick look around www.nwa.com also shows OTP and other European markets at real low prices. A lot of good NW/CO mileage run opportunities out there right now. ^ ^ :D :D

sorry, never used NW.com... how did you get these all in? I'm getting $944 for SFO-SVO for the same dates as the OP

thanks for the info OP!

Change the dates. You need V availability, and the flight has to exist that day (I don't think KLM goes to SVO every day).

1/12-1/17 works, for example
2/8-2/13 as well

Lots of combinations...

Beware!! Under "Other Discounts" in the fare rules of the ticket I was looking at it says "WP MILEAGE ACCRUAL IS NOT PERMITTED."

heck of a "discount" :rolleyes:

For international fares, it is almost impossible to "remove" the fare until the next day - system limitations. Also, depending on the airline, folks responsible for pricing do not usually work weekends. I would not be surprised if this mistake fare isn't removed until next week...

I guarantee that at least one pricing analyst works for NW ( and every other airline) every weekend. Do you think that they just ignore other airlines ATP transactions?!?

...even if there are no miles.Mitchell

Aren't such statements a violation of TOS? :D

IIRC, wasn't this the same mitchell I bumped into in the gate area at SIN in July '03 doing some crazy SIN MR for the NW points?

Although this appears to be a web-only special according to NWA Res, they insist that FF miles were required in addition to the fare. The fare basis is V14CASH/PK030. Does not appear that way to me, as the long version of the rules do not specify this.

For those that actually ticket this fare, please advise if FF miles were deducted from your WorldPerks acct.

Good fares from Memphis as well.

Still there, at least for CDG and WAS, but "3. WP MILEAGE ACCRUAL IS NOT PERMITTED." is clearly in the fare rules so I don't think there is any way to convince them its a mistake. Too bad.
About $170 more for mileage earning fare V fare.
tom

I am on the phone now with NW. They tried to not honor the fare and threatened to deduct miles but I held my ground. After being transfered by the Gold Elite line to net support, I spoke with a different supervisor who said the fare was a mistake and they were in the process of removing it. But since I was able to purchase the fare they would honor it and give me FF miles to boot. At no time during the purchase of the fare or even in the confirmation email did they mention this being a cash and miles fare. I won after 30 minutes on the phone :D :D :D

I would be very surprised if any supervisor could modify the fare rules about earning FF miles. THe only way I could see it would be to re-book you into a class that is actually elligible to earn miles. Of course if the fare is put out there, they should honor it, but under the rules of the fare. You bought it with it clearly posted that the fare did not earn miles. You also had to check the box saying you read and understood the fare rules. I think the only miles you will earn are the miles that they don't "charge" you on what should have been a cash + Miles fare.

Stranger things have happened, but you should not be disapointed if after you get back nothing posts.

Change the dates. You need V availability, and the flight has to exist that day (I don't think KLM goes to SVO every day).

1/12-1/17 works, for example
2/8-2/13 as well

Lots of combinations...

thanks, got it working. how did you find this fare? tried to look it up in expedia/travelocity and it hasn't been loaded yet?

This doesn't appear to be the first time that NW has loaded these Cash and Miles fares at low fares and not requiring a mileage copayment (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=356424). I would like to know if someone who has already flown on this type of fare was able to earn miles. While the prospect of a sub-$400 fare to Europe is definitely sweet, I couldn't risk earning no miles when my NW requalification is still up in the air...

These are great!

If it's a KLM flight operated by NWA -- booking class V, could one earn 100% EQMs for CO OnePass?

I tried a number of different dates, but I am not getting this price, despite V class being wide open. Has NW pulled this one already?

If anyone is still able to get it, what are some dates avaliable to SVO?

Looks like it's still available in V class. But I wasn't able to find fares to SVO. Unfortunately, the best I've been able to do was $596.56 all in

for those that got in, i realized i still had the fare rules open in firefox this morning. here they are for reference:

Fare Type
Fare Rules
1 Adult fare
V14CASH/PK030

Fare Rule: V14CASH/PK030

Penalties
Travel Restrictions
Blackout Dates
Seasonality
Flight Applications
Day/Time Application
Minimum Stay
Maximum Stay
Surcharges
Child Discount
Other Discount
Accompanied Travel
Eligibility
Advance Reservations/Ticketing Restrictions
Combinability
Transfers
Stopovers
Sales Restrictions
Penalties
CHANGES CHARGE USD 200.00 FOR REISSUE. NOTE - . TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY CHANGE IS MADE. THE FEE AND ANY FARE/MILEAGE DIFFERENCES MUST BE COLLECTED AT THE TIME OF CHANGE OR THE CHANGES WILL NOT BE PERMITTED. IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE - THERE IS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL REDEPOSIT FEE OF 50.00USD THAT ALSO APPLIES PER CHANGE. . IF MULTIPLE CHANGES ARE MADE AT THE SAME TIME - ONLY ONE CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY PER TICKET. . GDPR-GUARANTEED DAY OF PURCHASE RULE DOES NOT APPLY . I. PRIOR TO DEPARTURE A. CHANGES TO DEPARTING FLIGHT ARE PERMITTED FOR APPLICABLE CHANGE FEE PROVIDED THE CHANGE IS MADE TO THE SAME ORIGIN/DESTINATION AND SAME TICKETED TRAVEL DATE AND SAME BOOKING CLASS. IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE THERE IS ALSO A REDEPOSIT FEE OF USD50.00. . B. CHANGES TO DEPARTING FLIGHT INVOLVING A CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION OR DIFFERENT TICKETED TRAVEL DATE OR BOOKING CLASS ARE NOT PERMITTED - SEE CANCELLATIONS. . II. PRIOR TO DEPARTURE - CHANGES TO CONTINUING/ RETURN FLIGHTS. . A. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS CAN BE MADE AT ANY TIME FOR THE CHANGE FEE PROVIDED THE CHANGE MEETS ALL APPLICABLE FARE RULES. IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE THERE IS ALSO A REDEPOSIT FEE OF USD50.00 . B. IF A CHANGE IS MADE THAT INVALIDATES A BLACK- OUT DATE/SEASONALITY/BOOKING CODE RQMNTS/ MIN-MAX STAY OR ORIGINAL ROUTING RQMNTS - THE FOLLOWING REPRICING OPTION APPLIES. . B1. THE ENTIRE TICKET SHOULD BE REPRICED USING A CURRENT WORLDPERK FARE. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES/MILEAGE LEVELS PLUS THE ADMIN FEE SHOULD BE COLLECTED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE/MILEAGE LEVEL - THE DIFFERENCE IN FARES/MILEAGE CAN BE REFUNDED/REDEPOSITED LESS THE ADMIN FEE. IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE THERE IS ALSO A REDEPOSIT FEE OF USD50.00. . III. AFTER DEPARTURE-CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS. . A. CHANGES TO CONTINUING/RETURN FLIGHTS MAY BE MADE AT ANY TIME FOR THE ADMIN FEE PROVIDED THE CHANGE MEETS ALL OTHER FARE RULES. IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE THERE IS ALSO A REDEPOSIT FEE OF USD50.00. . B. IF A CHANGE IS MADE TO A BLACKOUT DATE OR THE NEW DATE VIOLATES THE SEASONALITY/TRAVEL DATES/BOOKING CODE REQUIREMENTS-THE FOLLOWING REPRICING OPTION APPLIES. . B1. THE CONTINUING/RETURN PORTION MUST BE PRICED WITH AN APPLICABLE CASH AND MILE WP FARE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE ORIG TKT WAS ISSUED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE/ MILEAGE LEVEL - THE DIFFERENCE IN LEVELS CAN BE REDEPOSITED PLUS THE ADMIN FEE. WHEN REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN SEGMENTS - THE BOOKING CODE OF THE REPLACEMENT FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO OR HIGHER THEN THE BOOKING CODE OF THE ORIGINALLY FLOWN FARE.IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE THERE IS ALSO A REDEPOSIT FEE OF USD50.00. . C. IF A CHANGE IS MADE TO THE ROUTING OR MIN- MAX STAY REQUIREMENTS. . C1. THE CONTINUING/RETURN PORTION MUST BE RE- PRICED WITH AN APPLICABLE CASH N MILE WP FARE IN EFFECT ON THE DATE THE ORIG TKT WAS ISSUED. IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE/ MILEAGE LEVEL - THE DIFFERENCE IN LEVELS CAN BE REDEPOSITED PLUS THE ADMIN FEE. WHEN REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN SEGMENTS-THE BOOKING CODE OF THE REPLACEMENT FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO OR HIGHER THEN THE BOOKING CODE OF THE ORIGINALLY FLOWN FARE.IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE THERE IS ALSO A REDEPOSIT FEE OF USD50.00. . C2. THE CONTINUING PORTION CAN ALSO BE REPRICED WITH AN APPLICABLE CURRENT CASH N MILE WP FARE.IF THE REPRICE RESULTS IN A LOWER FARE/ MILEAGE LEVEL - THE DIFFERENCE IN LEVELS CAN BE REDEPOSITED PLUS THE ADMIN FEE. WHEN REPLACING FARES FOR FLOWN SEGMENTS-THE BOOKING CODE OF THE REPLACEMENT FARE MUST BE EQUAL TO OR HIGHER THEN THE BOOKING CODE OF THE ORIGINALLY FLOWN FARE. IN ADDITION TO THE CHANGE FEE THERE IS ALSO A REDEPOSIT FEE OF USD50.00. . C3. IF THE RESULTS OF C1-C2 ABOVE RESULT IN MULTIPLE PRICING SOLUTIONS - THEN THE LOWEST SOLUTION WOULD APPLY. . CANCELLATIONS . THE TICKET IS NONREFUNDABLE AND VALUE MAY NOT BE APPLIED TOWARDS TICKETS FOR FUTURE TRAVEL. A NON- REFUNDABLE RE-DEPOSIT FEE OF 50.00 WILL APPLY. NOTE- . A. CUSTOMER FIRST POLICY. . 1.WHEN RESERVATIONS ARE MADE AND TICKETS ARE PURCHASED ON THE SAME DAY - REFUNDS ARE PERMITTED UP TO 1 DAY AFTER THE TICKET IS PURCHASED/ISSUED AT NO CHARGE. 2. FARES ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND NOT GUARANTEED UNTIL A TICKET IS PURCHASED/ISSUED . B. WHOLLY UNUSED WORLDPERK TICKET POLICY. . A WHOLLY UNUSED CASH N MILE WORLDPERK TKT MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF ANOTHER CURRENT WORLDPERK FARE. ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARES/MILEAGE WILL BE COLLECTED OR REFUNDED PLUS A USD200.00 CHANGE FEE AND A USD50.00 REDEPOSIT FEE. . IF NOT BEING APPLIED TO ANOTHER WORLDPERK TICKET - THEN THE ENTIRE UNUSED TICKET MAY BE REDEPOSITED FOR A USD50.00 FEE. ANY FARE VALUE WOULD BE FORFEITED. -LIMIT OF ONE WORLDPERK TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS THE PURCHASE OF A WORLDPERK TICKET. AND APPLICABLE CHANGE/REDEPOSIT FEES APPLY.

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Travel Restrictions
VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON/BEFORE 12MAR 05. ALL TRAVEL MUST BE COMPLETED BY MIDNIGHT ON 16MAR 05.

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Blackout Dates
BLACKOUT DATES: NO RESTRICTION

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Seasonality
SEASONALITY: NO RESTRICTION

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Flight Applications
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING KL FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 1999 KL FLIGHTS 4350 THROUGH 7049 KL FLIGHTS 7400 THROUGH 7999 NW FLIGHTS 0001 THROUGH 1999.

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Day/Time Application
DAY/TIME APPLICATION: NO RESTRICTION

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Minimum Stay
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

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Maximum Stay
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 30 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

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Surcharges
SURCHARGES: NO RESTRICTION

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Child Discount
CHILD DISCOUNT: NO RESTRICTION

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Other Discount
NOTE - 1. NOT VALID WITH ANY OTHER CERT/DISCOUNT/TICKET DESIGNATOR/GROUP TVL/WORLDPERKS TRAVEL AWARD. 2. WP ELITE CARD AND ELITE COMPANION UPGRADE NOT PERMITTED. 3. WP MILEAGE ACCRUAL IS NOT PERMITTED.

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Accompanied Travel
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL: NO RESTRICTION

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Eligibility
ELIGIBILITY: NO RESTRICTION

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Advance Reservations/Ticketing Restrictions
RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. STANDBY NOT PERMITTED. TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 14 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER. NOTE - OPEN SEGMENTS/WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED

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Combinability
CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED. END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. ADD-ONS NOT PERMITTED. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS -TO FORM ROUND TRIPS PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY ROUND TRIP FARE FOR CARRIER NW/KL IN THIS RULE AND TARIFF.

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Transfers
TRANSFERS: NO RESTRICTION

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Stopovers
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.

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Sales Restrictions
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 12FEB 05. TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. NOTE - 1. TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED IN CONJUNCTION WITH E-CERT OR PAPER CERT 2. A 50.00USD/75.00CAD SURCHARGE WILL BE ASSESSED FOR PAPER TKTS ISSUED IN THE US/CANADA/MEXICO CARIBBEAN WHERE ELECTRONIC TKTG IS AVAILABLE. 3. TBM PERMITTED. ALLOW 14 DAYS FOR TBM PROCESSING 4. A TICKET PURCHASED AT A NORTHWEST AIRPORT LOCATION WILL BE 10.00USD HIGHER THAN THE ADVERTISED FARE AND A TICKET PURCHASED THROUGH ONE OF NORTHWESTS U.S. RESERVATIN CALL CENTERS WILL BE 5.00USD HIGHER.

please delete, double post

Looks like fare is gone. I repriced both my trips and they are $740 now.

Great find! I have a friend who bought a hostel in Bucharest last year, and it'll be good to visit. ...even if there are no miles.

Mitchell

Some of these are pretty good.

I priced:

DFW-VCE $358 all in
SFO-BCN $393 all in
SFO-FCO $400 all in
SFO-WAW $408 all in
SFO-SVO $408 all in

Good find! ^

The NW agent I spoke with in the wee hours of Saturday told me I would earn miles. The ticket is booked in H for domestic and V for the international legs. Since the entire fare was a "mistake", my pnr was heavily documented about the situation with my fare. I guess I will find out here in a few weeks if I really earn miles. By the way, I've only spent $29.94 out of pocket since $300 of the fare was from a E-TCV. :cool:

I would be very surprised if any supervisor could modify the fare rules about earning FF miles. THe only way I could see it would be to re-book you into a class that is actually elligible to earn miles.

This fare was booked into V class. V class normally earns miles. So one would expect to earn miles, normally.

Stranger things have happened, but you should not be disapointed if after you get back nothing posts.

Actually, there was no indication that this was actually a cash & miles fare and there was no advance warning that miles would not be awarded (posting this information under "other discounts" is not very easy to find, considering the length of the fare rules). A 'reasonable' person booking this fare would probably expect FF miles since all other non-award bookings booked on nwa.com earns miles.

Hello again. SIN and HKG in 7/03 for CO miles (not NW miles).

I haven't done any real mileage runs yet.
Those were my only trips to SIN & HKG so far ($200 each).
And these will be my first trips to Hungary and Turkey ($400 each).
I'm staying for a few days.

Maybe I'll get CO miles for this. :-)
P.S. I saved a copy of the fare rules if anyone wants them.

...even if there are no miles.
Mitchell

HERESY! :D

3. WP MILEAGE ACCRUAL IS NOT PERMITTED.

er... So just accrue miles on a partner airline then. It specificly says WP MILEAGE. Nothing about KE Skypass or Delta SM.... ?

peace,
~Ben~

Looks like it's still available in V class. But I wasn't able to find fares to SVO. Unfortunately, the best I've been able to do was $596.56 all in

yeah looks like sfo-svo essentially doubled, and is showing up as the "promo" fare i was getting for $408 last night

Beware!! Under "Other Discounts" in the fare rules of the ticket I was looking at it says "WP MILEAGE ACCRUAL IS NOT PERMITTED."

Aren't such statements a violation of TOS? :D

IIRC, wasn't this the same mitchell I bumped into in the gate area at SIN in July '03 doing some crazy SIN MR for the NW points?

Yes it is.

These are great!

If it's a KLM flight operated by NWA -- booking class V, could one earn 100% EQMs for CO OnePass?

Don't think so. If crediting to CO, stick to the KL-coded, KL-operated flights.

Beware!! Under "Other Discounts" in the fare rules of the ticket I was looking at it says "WP MILEAGE ACCRUAL IS NOT PERMITTED."
Technically DL miles are not WP miles, so if I credit this to my DL account... Do you think it might work?

I would like to know if someone who has already flown on this type of fare was able to earn miles. While the prospect of a sub-$400 fare to Europe is definitely sweet, I couldn't risk earning no miles when my NW requalification is still up in the air...

WP MILEAGE ACCRUAL IS NOT PERMITTED is very clear in the fare rule, although in an unusual place. My guess is the farecode is hardwired to prevent miles from posting. And while I just had success getting miles for a flight that was NW coded/KL operated when booked and became KL coded/Transavia operated when KL had an equipment shortage, the rule didn't say no WP miles. My guess is the only way to earn miles for this trip would be if there was a programming error, and that has happened, but I wouldn't count on it.
I agree it is a great fare, and might be worth taking early in the year when you will have other opportunities to make the miles, but I don't think I'd count on the miles from this one.
tom

Some of these are pretty good.

I priced:

DFW-VCE $358 all in
SFO-BCN $393 all in
SFO-FCO $400 all in
SFO-WAW $408 all in
SFO-SVO $408 all in

Good find! ^

sorry, never used NW.com... how did you get these all in? I'm getting $944 for SFO-SVO for the same dates as the OP

thanks for the info OP!

Fare rules say depart by 3/12. Return by 3/16.

I booked two tickets SFO-OTP (Bucharest, Romania) $404.60 and SFO-IST (Istanbul, Turkey) $394.90. Also booked a SFO-WAW (Warsaw, Poland), but changed my mind and decided to do Romania.

Base fare for all tickets was $309.

Mitchell

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